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Renders: Old Pre-SGW Archie Sonic Sally and Tails by FrostTheHobidon Renders: Old Pre-SGW Archie Sonic Sally and Tails by FrostTheHobidon
I had a hard time editing and making younger version of Sonic, Sally, and Tails from the Old Pre Universe.

1. Pre-SGW Classic Sonic,
This is when Sonic has brown eyes back in the old universe dark and goofy era of the Robotnik Wars. Sonic does not have the gold buckle on his shoes and the grey traction on the bottle of his shoes. A more Satam design to it.
Sonic in the old classic era of the Pre-SGW was a high speed hero, who loves chili dogs, a lot, and I mean a lot, does what he can to help out, and loves rock and roll music, which we all know.
In his old past, He can get angry very easy, which cause him to be more of an asshole to everyone, thinks he is right and everyone is wrong, I seen him pick fights with Knuckles more then his game counterpart, when Knuckles tries to find a way to save his island or trying to help, Sonic respond by punching Knuckles in the face like an asshole. Sonic was a real dick to everyone when he get angry or having a bad day. 
Back when the writers added drama in the comic to make it more real to the character.

2. Pre-SGW Sally Acorn
This version of Sally has long hair when Sonic was in space for a day.
When Mobius thought Sonic died, Robotnik, pretty much took over the whole planet, the heroes are too weak to stop Robotnik, like they lost the will to fight back, I thought Shadow would stop Robotnik, but no, Shadow let it happened, some hero you are Shadow fro the Pre-SGW universe. 
This Version of Sally that Slaps Sonic in the face and broke up with him, and leads to her allowed to date Monkey Khan. I don't like the moment, but Sally made it up with Sonic late on and you know how the story goes.

3. Pre-SGE Classic Tails
Not many picture of Satam Tails, the Young version of Tails, who is we all know Sonic, trusting sidekick, sadly in the old universe past, Sonic does leave him in the dust sometimes.
Tails has furry cheeks to give his the young cute look, and grey eyes, and no traction on his shoes.
He basically his old Satam design.



They art work belong to Tracey Yardley :iconyardley: 

Edited by me :iconfrostthehobidon:

Sonic, Sally, and Tails belongs to Sega and Archie (I know most of you say Sally doesn't belong to Sega, as long as she or the other related characters that are Sonic related, they are own by Sega in my book.)

I Do Not Own these characters, This are cut out images, These are edited renders, I hope you like them.

The orginal artist is right here :iconyardley:  he is a the one who made this art style. and they are own by Archie.
Check out the archie Sonic of Pages of where the renders are from:
1. Sonic's image from Archie Sonic comic 201 page 14
2. Sally's image from Sonic Universe comic 13 page 17
3. Tails's image from Archie Sonic comic 225 page 1


Sorry if you thing I'm stealing, but many people have made their own design on other characters, like spider-man or other characters, and for some reason Sonic characters from a comic are off limits, it's not far, and people are trying to blame me for this crap when many people has done it before.
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
A while (LONG while) back, I asked you to do renders of some of my characters like this.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2017
That was difficult for me, something about Tracy Yardly's art style has something I can't capture, you can ask him for a commission.
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't got Pay Pal.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2017
same
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:iconnathancook0927:
Nathancook0927 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 4, 2017  Hobbyist
It's kind sad that Archie couldn't go back to the way things were before the Lawsuit like I said in a couple of my Journals it was like the reboot was treated like New Coke and sadly for Archie they couldn't back to the original formula due to the Lawsuit from Penders.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2017
yeah, but I like both the old and new Universe

they can't use the characters Penders created

Sega of America has the rights to the Freedom Fighters and AoSth

Sega decided to give the Freedom Fighters a redesign, because they are tired of their old designs, and wants to make Sally, Nicole, Bunnie, Antoine, Rotor, and the other Satam and AoSth more modern to fit with the Sega Video Games characters.
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:iconnathancook0927:
Nathancook0927 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2017  Hobbyist
I'd like both too man! And yes Sega wanted to characters to keep up with the times and some of the classic Archie fan treated the reboot like it was a bad thing but I didn't mind the reboot and yes I understood what happened with Sega & the Archie Comics and the Ken Pender Lawsuit half the fans were angry Penders and the other half was angry at Ian Flynn for the reboot but I'd didn't had anything against Flynn the guy tried his best to get the Comics going I'd understood what he'd had to go through and I don't know what will happen with Sally & the Freedom until there's any new news from IDW Comics.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2017
thanks for understanding
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I specifically wanted the renders in this style, not Tyson's.
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Yet AGAIN, I asked for a picture in this style, but you never gave it to me- you always used YOUR style.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2017
I did my best dude, I can't capture his style, I gotten use to Tyson Hesse stlye
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
OK..?
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Once again, I asked for a render like this, but you chose to go with your style instead.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017
it's difficult to draw a dear in Tracy's Style, sorry about that
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
But the colouring style, tho
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017
I know, and I agree

He had another artist with the coloring name Hett I believe
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
The colouring style is that of Matt Herms.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017
right
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I wanted a render like this one. Instead, you used your usual style.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2017
I like to edit pieces of images together to create a new

I'll be happy to make a render for you one day :D
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
You said you would.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2017
yes
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Instead, you used your usual art style.
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:iconchchcartoons:
CHCHcartoons Featured By Owner Edited Nov 28, 2016
Nice. I prefer Tails is shorter than Sonic and Sally.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2016
thanks, cool

I sad many people never use this version of Tails a lot, they always use the Game version design.
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Wanna make one for me?
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016
that depends, what is it
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
How about doing one of Red?
jlnhlfan.deviantart.com/art/Oh… <- that's his updated design.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016
cool
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Ya. So?
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Excuse me? Why haven't you replied?
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017
sorry
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:iconred-the-mink:
Red-The-Mink Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:)
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:iconsemaseri:
semaseri Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I never knew I gave Sonic his Archie eyes in my work till I started recognizing sonics eyes weren't a straight up black.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016
They gave classic Sonic in the old universe brown eyes, but they try to cover it up by bring it back to black to be close to the games appearance.  

but yeah
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:iconnintrendodude:
Nintrendodude Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
I forget. Were Sonic's eyes in the comics before they adapted the adventure designs brown?
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
They were brown in his classic are when Ken Penders was the writer, they shown a couple of time in the classic comics but they try and hide it by turning them black like his game counterpart.
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Nintrendodude Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
May I see an example?

I always assumed if classic sonic had colored eyes that they'd be gray because of this: vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/s…
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016
I tried searching in the old comics to find classic Sonic brown eyes, but I don't know which comic.

I found this one in Sonic Universe 42 page 13
media.sonicscanf.org/comics/so…
Elias's flashback of Elias trying to stop Sonic and Geoffrey argument.

It even say so in Pre-SGW Sonic's Bio:
sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the…
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:iconnintrendodude:
Nintrendodude Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016
Huh? Fancy that?
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016
I founds some images in the page Sonic issue
en.sonicscanf.org/comics/sonic…
a shade of brown in his eyes
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Nintrendodude Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016
OK so if you used brown-eyed sonic, brown-furred tails? So why aren't yoiyoiu using pink or orange sally: en.sonicscanf.org/comics/sonic… (pink) or en.sonicscanf.org/comics/minis… (orange)
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016
That I don't know, they even made a joke about that in the comics with Sally gotten into a mess that change her fur, plus Sally's fur was pink in the first Satam Sonic.
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sonicmechaomega999 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016
nice design and backstory. but yeah, sonic does act like a jerk and get angry usually like his fleetway counterpart in the pre genesis wave. Hey, can you do that please? 
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016
i know right, they try to make him different from his game counterpart.

do what exactly?
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sonicmechaomega999 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016
the render thing with fleetway sonic.
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016
Sure thing one day, I got a lot on my to do list
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:iconj-matt:
j-matt Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016
neatly done :D
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:iconfrostthehobidon:
FrostTheHobidon Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016
thanks, it took me a while to edit them into their classic designs

I hope people don't see me as a thief, even though I gave credit to the original artist.

:D
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